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Really, I’d love to Wonder Woman lead the JLA w/o Batman and Superman. I think it’d make for some interesting story possibilities.
Wally is off-limits for JLA but not Titans because … why, exactly?
I really want to like JLA a lot but so often it’s been a bit disappointing and I don’t blame McDuffie at all. Losing characters might be frustrating but you can deal with that. Having to tie into a load of other story lines is a lot harder to deal with.
Yeah, that seems about right. I never understood why they’d go to the effort to put a popular, well-regarded writer on their flagship book, and then not let him, y’know, write.
A brutal, but probably accurate account of Dwayne McDuffie’s departure from JLA…
This really shouldn’t be this funny, but it is. Comic Critics takes a savage swipe at DC’s firing of Dwayne McDuffie from Justice League of America. The worrying thing is they’re version is exactly the same version that McDuffie descr…
For the record? McDuffie’s editor was Eddie Berganza, who was also the man responsible for a number of the changes to the Young Justice cast when they were moved to Teen Titans. Impulse “growing up” and becoming Kid Flash, etc.
This is why I’ve always preferred the Avengers, because the majority of their characters were nothing but Avengers. But with Marvel gearing towards having nothing but summer crossovers, it seems like tehy’re heading the same way.
If only we got the JSA over here.
To be fair, JLA isn’t the only title that gets strong editiorial influence.
Honestly, though, the stuff that WAS McDuffie’s wasn’t that good. I feel bad for the man, but this IS a two way street. People have learned how to make lemonade in the past…
And before someone blasts me, I am no fan of Dan DiDio. Don’t even know the guy, so I don’t really care either way.
That was funny….even if we have the face the sadness that this is how the comic industry runs.
@Wally East
Wonder Woman lead the JLA without Batman or Superman in the late 90’s just before Morrison’s run on the book
@MrGBH
I understand what you are saying, I think this is the reason why most of my fav runs on JLA have been when they have fewer the big name characters on the team.
@Jacob, well think about it for a second, if a writer can only use part of his ideas for his reminding time on a book how can you blame them for it not being up to whatever you standard it is. Do you know what the stories were going to be like had editorial not shut down his ideas before he could even get them to print?
McDuffie is a fine writer who wrote many great stories on Justice League cartoon. He should not have been fired for expressing his opinions. The editorial reigns at DC are not communicating and not giving the fans what they want. I, for one, do not like ongoing series like JLA being interfered with other company events. Something needs to be done at DC because Marvel is beating them with some really bad storylines. I have always liked Dan Didio’s energy and enthusiasm but it seems he can be pretty bullheaded on what he wants and not what the fan wants. I have been a life long Justice League fan and I want to see a consistant creative team and a good mix a “A and B” characters, preferably not named Batman abd Superman who already have way too much exposure.
I was very disappointed by the news, I was really enjoying McDuffie’s JLA Dissembled series. I’m done with this book. McDuffie obviously cared a lot about the series and he was no more critical than other writers have been.
FYI, J. Michael Straczynski has quit the Thor book over disagreements concerning creative control.
Apparently, Marvel wanted to tie Thor into the rest of the Marvel Univ (Dark Reign?), and Straczynski felt he wasn’t flexible enough to handle that demand.
Its definitely brutal but come on…This is the GIG. You are writing half century old characters owned by multinational coperate interests and managed by middle aged fan-boys. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT? Dude seriously if you want to express yourself creatively write your own novel on the side with your own characters or hell…self publish a creator owned ashcan. Do not expect to get your jones of on charaters you DID NOT CREATE OR OWN. You complain about getting paid A LOT of money to write comic scripts because you are being heavily supervised? Are you kidding me? Enjoy the fact that all you have to do is connect the dots others have made for you and revel in the things you are allowed to create. If you are only allowed to freely script one fight scene make it the coolest damn fight scene ever. Publically “exposing” your colleagues is not cool. He should have just took it in stride with some humor and humility got paid had fun and kept it moving. Instead he got sad bitter and fired.
June 16th, 2009 at 6:52 am
Cripes, poor McDuffie. I read his series of posts a few weeks back and you can’t help but feel bad for the guy.
Dildio seriously needs to leave.
June 16th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Really, I’d love to Wonder Woman lead the JLA w/o Batman and Superman. I think it’d make for some interesting story possibilities.
Wally is off-limits for JLA but not Titans because … why, exactly?
I really want to like JLA a lot but so often it’s been a bit disappointing and I don’t blame McDuffie at all. Losing characters might be frustrating but you can deal with that. Having to tie into a load of other story lines is a lot harder to deal with.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Yeah, that seems about right. I never understood why they’d go to the effort to put a popular, well-regarded writer on their flagship book, and then not let him, y’know, write.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
A brutal, but probably accurate account of Dwayne McDuffie’s departure from JLA…
This really shouldn’t be this funny, but it is. Comic Critics takes a savage swipe at DC’s firing of Dwayne McDuffie from Justice League of America. The worrying thing is they’re version is exactly the same version that McDuffie descr…
June 17th, 2009 at 10:30 am
For the record? McDuffie’s editor was Eddie Berganza, who was also the man responsible for a number of the changes to the Young Justice cast when they were moved to Teen Titans. Impulse “growing up” and becoming Kid Flash, etc.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
This is why I’ve always preferred the Avengers, because the majority of their characters were nothing but Avengers. But with Marvel gearing towards having nothing but summer crossovers, it seems like tehy’re heading the same way.
If only we got the JSA over here.
June 17th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
They should just bring back the Giffen/DeMatteis League. Along with all the good post-Crisis stuff that Dildio seems to hate.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Thanks for telling the truth…I’ll make sure to pass this on to all my friends who read JLA
June 18th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
To be fair, JLA isn’t the only title that gets strong editiorial influence.
Honestly, though, the stuff that WAS McDuffie’s wasn’t that good. I feel bad for the man, but this IS a two way street. People have learned how to make lemonade in the past…
And before someone blasts me, I am no fan of Dan DiDio. Don’t even know the guy, so I don’t really care either way.
June 18th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
That’s is so hilarious, but it is so realistic. Right down to the shakes.
June 18th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Wow, McDuffie really got people behind him.
But really, the guy SHOULD have been fired for what happened. It would happen in any other profession. He couldn’t have possibly been that surprised.
June 18th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
That was funny….even if we have the face the sadness that this is how the comic industry runs.
@Wally East
Wonder Woman lead the JLA without Batman or Superman in the late 90’s just before Morrison’s run on the book
@MrGBH
I understand what you are saying, I think this is the reason why most of my fav runs on JLA have been when they have fewer the big name characters on the team.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:12 am
@Sequential Minded Thanks! I’ll have to go looking for that.
June 19th, 2009 at 9:22 am
[...] Source: ComicsCritics.com [...]
June 19th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
@Jacob, well think about it for a second, if a writer can only use part of his ideas for his reminding time on a book how can you blame them for it not being up to whatever you standard it is. Do you know what the stories were going to be like had editorial not shut down his ideas before he could even get them to print?
June 20th, 2009 at 7:38 am
McDuffie is a fine writer who wrote many great stories on Justice League cartoon. He should not have been fired for expressing his opinions. The editorial reigns at DC are not communicating and not giving the fans what they want. I, for one, do not like ongoing series like JLA being interfered with other company events. Something needs to be done at DC because Marvel is beating them with some really bad storylines. I have always liked Dan Didio’s energy and enthusiasm but it seems he can be pretty bullheaded on what he wants and not what the fan wants. I have been a life long Justice League fan and I want to see a consistant creative team and a good mix a “A and B” characters, preferably not named Batman abd Superman who already have way too much exposure.
June 21st, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I was very disappointed by the news, I was really enjoying McDuffie’s JLA Dissembled series. I’m done with this book. McDuffie obviously cared a lot about the series and he was no more critical than other writers have been.
June 21st, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Damn shame I can’t read JLA anymore. Ah well, I guess I can go watch my JLU DVDs again and dream of what could have been.
July 19th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
FYI, J. Michael Straczynski has quit the Thor book over disagreements concerning creative control.
Apparently, Marvel wanted to tie Thor into the rest of the Marvel Univ (Dark Reign?), and Straczynski felt he wasn’t flexible enough to handle that demand.
So it’s not just a DC thing.
September 25th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Its definitely brutal but come on…This is the GIG. You are writing half century old characters owned by multinational coperate interests and managed by middle aged fan-boys. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT? Dude seriously if you want to express yourself creatively write your own novel on the side with your own characters or hell…self publish a creator owned ashcan. Do not expect to get your jones of on charaters you DID NOT CREATE OR OWN. You complain about getting paid A LOT of money to write comic scripts because you are being heavily supervised? Are you kidding me? Enjoy the fact that all you have to do is connect the dots others have made for you and revel in the things you are allowed to create. If you are only allowed to freely script one fight scene make it the coolest damn fight scene ever. Publically “exposing” your colleagues is not cool. He should have just took it in stride with some humor and humility got paid had fun and kept it moving. Instead he got sad bitter and fired.