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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://comiccritics.com/2012/04/21/lies-damn-lies-and-flash-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-9490</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what have a lot of us have we learned? well if I wanted to I could give a list if I wanted. But I will say this : I learned they took my favorite character from DC and ruined and bastardized them and making them into something their not and messing up a lot of their personas, added sexual acts, literally, overly done blood and gore. if that be the case, I would not let my nephew come anywhere new them. It was basically a big smack in the face for long time fans like myself. they wanted new readers, but in so doing, they kicked a lot of us long time fans, who we loved our character that has inspired us and captured our imagination and replaced them with characters who are darker and edgier and yet at the same time, with have less quality and values and morals. Not to mention bad writing, etc. In short terms, the new 52 is a total nightmare and it has messed up and ruined and crossed so many line, which NEVER should have been crossed. They have done the same thing with masters of the universe and I am very disgusted and I never should have trusted them with it It&#039;s botched up in so many ways, it not even funny. I, personally, I am GLAD it&#039;s sales are plummeting and that it is FAILING. I believe that indicates a sign of hope in having our older dc universe back. For those who doubt that, well, never say &quot;never&quot;. So, in shorter terms, the new 52 is messed up in so many ways, it&#039;s not even funny anymore. And at this point and time, ......I ACTUALLY MISS THE REAL DC UNIVERSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what have a lot of us have we learned? well if I wanted to I could give a list if I wanted. But I will say this : I learned they took my favorite character from DC and ruined and bastardized them and making them into something their not and messing up a lot of their personas, added sexual acts, literally, overly done blood and gore. if that be the case, I would not let my nephew come anywhere new them. It was basically a big smack in the face for long time fans like myself. they wanted new readers, but in so doing, they kicked a lot of us long time fans, who we loved our character that has inspired us and captured our imagination and replaced them with characters who are darker and edgier and yet at the same time, with have less quality and values and morals. Not to mention bad writing, etc. In short terms, the new 52 is a total nightmare and it has messed up and ruined and crossed so many line, which NEVER should have been crossed. They have done the same thing with masters of the universe and I am very disgusted and I never should have trusted them with it It&#8217;s botched up in so many ways, it not even funny. I, personally, I am GLAD it&#8217;s sales are plummeting and that it is FAILING. I believe that indicates a sign of hope in having our older dc universe back. For those who doubt that, well, never say &#8220;never&#8221;. So, in shorter terms, the new 52 is messed up in so many ways, it&#8217;s not even funny anymore. And at this point and time, &#8230;&#8230;I ACTUALLY MISS THE REAL DC UNIVERSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://comiccritics.com/2012/04/21/lies-damn-lies-and-flash-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-9489</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SCREW DIDIO &amp; HIS EQUALLY SCREWED UP NEW 52!! I WANT MY REAL DC UNIVERSE BACK!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCREW DIDIO &amp; HIS EQUALLY SCREWED UP NEW 52!! I WANT MY REAL DC UNIVERSE BACK!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://comiccritics.com/2012/04/21/lies-damn-lies-and-flash-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-7198</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 01:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vic, you&#039;ll want to check out the &quot;New 52&quot; book DC put out for Free Comic Book Day.

And then you&#039;ll probably want to forget it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vic, you&#8217;ll want to check out the &#8220;New 52&#8243; book DC put out for Free Comic Book Day.</p>
<p>And then you&#8217;ll probably want to forget it.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Sage</title>
		<link>http://comiccritics.com/2012/04/21/lies-damn-lies-and-flash-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-7168</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 05:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just want to know where the hell my Vic Sage - Question is in this &quot;rebooted&quot; DCU! No Vic Sage, No Ted Kord, talk about a soft reboot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to know where the hell my Vic Sage &#8211; Question is in this &#8220;rebooted&#8221; DCU! No Vic Sage, No Ted Kord, talk about a soft reboot.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Sage</title>
		<link>http://comiccritics.com/2012/04/21/lies-damn-lies-and-flash-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-7167</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 05:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In defense of the JL/JLU cartoon, JLAer, I found the depiction of Wally to be completely in tune with the portrayl of Wally from the JLE/JLI era. There Wally was constantly hitting on Power Girl, worried about his taxes, eating a tremendous amount of food to maintain his metabolism. Sound familiar? I thought it did. The last few years of the Wally West days were not the only way of viewing that character.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of the JL/JLU cartoon, JLAer, I found the depiction of Wally to be completely in tune with the portrayl of Wally from the JLE/JLI era. There Wally was constantly hitting on Power Girl, worried about his taxes, eating a tremendous amount of food to maintain his metabolism. Sound familiar? I thought it did. The last few years of the Wally West days were not the only way of viewing that character.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://comiccritics.com/2012/04/21/lies-damn-lies-and-flash-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-7098</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mnk refers to Barry Allen as &quot;endearingly dorky&quot;, which sounds about right and makes me wonder if I should check out the new title. Again, a good story is the best way to make up for bad motivations. 


As I mentioned, the only New52 book I&#039;ve read with the Flash in it is &quot;Justice League&quot; and that guy is Wally West through and through (this is coming from a reader of Messner-Loebs&#039; and Waid&#039;s run on The Flash, as well as his appearances in Giffen&#039;s various Justice League books, so let&#039;s drop the whole &quot;true fan&quot; b.s.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mnk refers to Barry Allen as &#8220;endearingly dorky&#8221;, which sounds about right and makes me wonder if I should check out the new title. Again, a good story is the best way to make up for bad motivations. </p>
<p>As I mentioned, the only New52 book I&#8217;ve read with the Flash in it is &#8220;Justice League&#8221; and that guy is Wally West through and through (this is coming from a reader of Messner-Loebs&#8217; and Waid&#8217;s run on The Flash, as well as his appearances in Giffen&#8217;s various Justice League books, so let&#8217;s drop the whole &#8220;true fan&#8221; b.s.)</p>
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		<title>By: mnk</title>
		<link>http://comiccritics.com/2012/04/21/lies-damn-lies-and-flash-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-7097</link>
		<dc:creator>mnk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 02:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel bad for Wally fans - I got into comics when Barry had just come back, and though he never really did anything for me I never built up an attachment to Wally, either. I was just kind of Flash-neutral.
But then came Francis Manapul and Brian Buccelato, and they made Flash - starring Barry Allen - my absolute favorite DC book at the moment. Their characterization of him as this sort of endearingly dorky guy, as opposed to Johns&#039; painfully stiff &quot;troubled&quot; hero, works really well for me, the story is interesting, and above all the art is some of the best I&#039;ve ever seen, month in and month out.
So I basically forgot until now that Wally vs. Barry was even a thing. If anyone is avoiding the current book because they&#039;re still mad about Wally getting the shaft, do reconsider! It&#039;s so good. And no matter who&#039;s in the cowl, the book is pure Flash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad for Wally fans &#8211; I got into comics when Barry had just come back, and though he never really did anything for me I never built up an attachment to Wally, either. I was just kind of Flash-neutral.<br />
But then came Francis Manapul and Brian Buccelato, and they made Flash &#8211; starring Barry Allen &#8211; my absolute favorite DC book at the moment. Their characterization of him as this sort of endearingly dorky guy, as opposed to Johns&#8217; painfully stiff &#8220;troubled&#8221; hero, works really well for me, the story is interesting, and above all the art is some of the best I&#8217;ve ever seen, month in and month out.<br />
So I basically forgot until now that Wally vs. Barry was even a thing. If anyone is avoiding the current book because they&#8217;re still mad about Wally getting the shaft, do reconsider! It&#8217;s so good. And no matter who&#8217;s in the cowl, the book is pure Flash.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://comiccritics.com/2012/04/21/lies-damn-lies-and-flash-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-7096</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DC (or rather it&#039;s spokesman) can make all of the &quot;logical&quot; reasons they want for keeping Wally away. At the end of the day though, they don&#039;t use him in the new DCU because they just don&#039;t want to.Look at all of the GL &amp; Batman history that they are picking and choosing to keep. If they wanted to keep Wally, they&#039;d find a way to make it work.

If they wanted to.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC (or rather it&#8217;s spokesman) can make all of the &#8220;logical&#8221; reasons they want for keeping Wally away. At the end of the day though, they don&#8217;t use him in the new DCU because they just don&#8217;t want to.Look at all of the GL &amp; Batman history that they are picking and choosing to keep. If they wanted to keep Wally, they&#8217;d find a way to make it work.</p>
<p>If they wanted to&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Looking In</title>
		<link>http://comiccritics.com/2012/04/21/lies-damn-lies-and-flash-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-7095</link>
		<dc:creator>Looking In</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Iwritecomicsundermybed, especially considering Flash is the is the only major character they haven&#039;t used yet in the non-DCAU movie franchise or TV show concept on his own.

One thing I think has a role in this is their current TV series Young Justice- Wally West as Kid Flash in that is going to screw up Wally West as the full-fledged Flash in the comics world with all of their tie-ins with the show.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Iwritecomicsundermybed, especially considering Flash is the is the only major character they haven&#8217;t used yet in the non-DCAU movie franchise or TV show concept on his own.</p>
<p>One thing I think has a role in this is their current TV series Young Justice- Wally West as Kid Flash in that is going to screw up Wally West as the full-fledged Flash in the comics world with all of their tie-ins with the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Iwritecomicsundermybed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iwritecomicsundermybed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do find this witch hunt towards accused &quot;true fans&quot; quite funny. It seems the balance has shifted from bashing &quot;non-true fans&quot; to bashing people who are too arrogant and claim to be &quot;True fans&quot;.
In the end, this topic is about DC&#039;s slicing of history. Believe it or not, people truly liked Wally West. These people also liked Barry Allen. DC needed to use Barry Allen more (my assumption - and this is strictly my own opinion - is that they&#039;re trying to assert him back as the true Flash in order to pave the way towards more media deals such as a featured movie and/or tv series. Now people feel as if Wally West is invalid In the eyes of the DC creative staff.
Regardless of one&#039;s favoritism, most people would agree that that seems unfair to a character as beloved as Wally West. But hey, maybe that&#039;s just me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do find this witch hunt towards accused &#8220;true fans&#8221; quite funny. It seems the balance has shifted from bashing &#8220;non-true fans&#8221; to bashing people who are too arrogant and claim to be &#8220;True fans&#8221;.<br />
In the end, this topic is about DC&#8217;s slicing of history. Believe it or not, people truly liked Wally West. These people also liked Barry Allen. DC needed to use Barry Allen more (my assumption &#8211; and this is strictly my own opinion &#8211; is that they&#8217;re trying to assert him back as the true Flash in order to pave the way towards more media deals such as a featured movie and/or tv series. Now people feel as if Wally West is invalid In the eyes of the DC creative staff.<br />
Regardless of one&#8217;s favoritism, most people would agree that that seems unfair to a character as beloved as Wally West. But hey, maybe that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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